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RUSSIAN
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Boris Shurinov - Black
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| When we learn
the truth, we should stop supporting those who have lied to us no matter
how appealing their story, how exciting their data, or how much we wish
it to be true.
Kevin Randle to UpDates (16 Dec 2001)
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YELLOW
RESEARCHER
P.Stonehill to
G.Bourdais:
"Shurinov
has belittled my article about the Yellow Emperor. He called it "yellow".
Read it for free here
http://www.levymultimedia.com/January/0125mysteries.htm
And
tell me your opinion. I really would like to know why it could be considered
"yellow"... (UpDates,
7 Jan 2001) |
Dear UFO UpDates,
Read everything for free here and
tell me your opinion.
I really would like to know where
are limits of decency and integrity
in our international ufological community.
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STOLEN RELIABLE SOURCES...
Paul
Stonehill
Investigating Russian and Chinese
ufology since 1991. Located: Tarzana, California. Director: Paul Stonehill,
Russian-born writer, researcher, journalist.
RUSSIAN UFOLOGY RESEARCH
CENTER
Publications: Russian Anomalous
Phenomena. Chinese Ufologist.
Secrets
of Russian Seas.
Books published:Prisheltzi
ryadom, Moscow, Russia, 1992.
Consulted: SIGHTINGS, ENCOUNTERS.
Magazines where research
was published: FATE, UFO MAGAZINE, etc. throughout the world.
Languages: Russian, English. Translated to: Italian, Bulgarian,
Chinese, Ukrainian.
The Center was profiled
in OMNI (October, 1993)
Fax: (818) 881-7179
Address: POB 571951 Tarzana,
CA 91357-1951 USA
Another area of research:
Chinese Paranormal phenomena. My
article Mysteries of the
Yellow Emperor, about China's
ancient astronauts, was
published throughout the world.
e-mail:pshill@mail.idt.net |
We know the story about
"his"
book published in Moscow.
(The page "How to become
author of two books without writing
these books?" is under construction. Sorry.
Now it is only in Russian.)
But it is not the end of
his ufological "research".
As you see, P.Stonehill
is proud of his article Yellow Emperor...
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This
Yellow Emperor roused my interest. Especially because
of P.Stonehill's
letter-invitation to enjoy his research. |
| Once on the website
(http://ufo.psu.ru ), go to
the English-language page. I think you will enjoy the
research presented therein.
Paul Stonehill
From: Paul Stonehill
<rurc@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon,
27 Nov 2000 11:39:16 -0800
Fwd Date:
Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:06:29 -0500
Subject: Russian
And Russian Sources |
Once on
the website, I found Yellow Emperor. I cast a glance at the
text -
everything was
clear.
Stonehill
and his "reliable" friends must realize, that
for us it is not difficult
to recognize
immediately the real source and the real author of every text ever published
in Russia. Of every text, and it is not a
joke.
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Below
you will see several paragraphs from Yellow Emperor.
The underlining is ours, it shows the text translated, yes,
translated by P.Stonehill from the Russian original, written by Igor
Lissevich, the well-known Russian sinologist (May 1932 - Jan 2000). Of
course, the real author is not credited.
Igor Lissevich was the first to write about the so called Yellow
Emperor in connection with the theory of Ancient Astronauts, in 1974
(Review
Asia
and Africa today, 1974, N 11, in Russian).He
presented his scientific findings at the 1975 Zelenchuk CETI
Symposium (Problem
of SETI, Science, Moscow 1981, pp. 68-82, 40 references, in Russian)and
at Zagreb 1981Congress(Poruke
kroz vrijeme, Zagreb 1981, in Serbo-Croatian, Yu.Mizun.: ET Civilizations,
Troitsk-Murmansk 1993, pp. 15-28, in Russian).
Naturally, P.Stonehill has his own "reliable sources"
without any connection with the reality. In "his" Yellow Emperor,
P.Stonehill mentions sometimes Mr.Krapiva: "Mr. Krapiva, a noted Ukrainian
researcher of anomalous phenomena", Krapiva's book "UFOs:
a hovering enigma of history" (Odessa,
1991), "according to Mr.Krapiva", "there is even a more curious detail
uncovered by Krapiva"... There
is only one curious detail uncovered by us: the text of Igor Lissevich
was stolen...
Dear UFO UpDates, forgive me my having analysed only a part of Yellow
Emperor. We cannot sacrifice all
our time to the "ufological research" of P.Stonehill.
Bellow
you will see the main part, the part about the Yellow
Emperor , the heart of the article. A literal
translation from Russian! Red figures
point out the pages of the original text by Igor Lissevich in Problem
of SETI.
The number you see above
the title is the official code of this scientific article.
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Sons Of
Heaven
The "Yellow Emperor"
was a rather interesting entity. I intentionally
avoid calling him a human being, not because
I seek to offend the Chinese people, but because the information
I had collected about Huang-ti (albeit scarce) convinces me
otherwise.
STOP.
P.Stonehill likes the words "collect", "research".
In fact,
it would be better to use "translate" because The
Yellow
Emperor is nothing but the translation of Lissevich's fruitful
research. Word for word! |
The ancient
Chinese records 69
mention amazing, wise and humane (humane, not
human - P.S.) beings, the " Sons of Heaven" (this
term became emperors' title much later)
, who had done so much for the then savage dwellers
of the Huang He River valley. Before
the "Sons of Heaven" appeared on Earth, familiar
celestial phenomena preceded all such appearances.
Before Huang-ti was born there occurred " a radiance from the great star
Chi and the Dipper Constellation (Ursa Major) 69."A
very ancient, pre-Buddhist religion of Tibet
("bon") described how a mighty "Friend of virtue and
kindness" had appeared on Earth:...Egg, created by magical
forces of gods Sa and Bal, exited under
the
action of
its own weight from the divine bosom
of empty sky. The shell
became a defensive
armor. The casing defended like amour, and that which
is White became
a source of strength for heroes. The inner casing became
a stronghold for
those who had dwelt in it... From the very center of the
Egg came a human
being, Possessor of magic force...
69
Of all the
"Sons of Heaven" it was Huang-ti who had left the
"largest
footprint" in
the Chinese mythology. He first made his appearance in the Huang He River
basin 70
. Huang-ti was very different from other ancient
heroes. He did not enlighten people, did not demand worship.
Huang-ti and his helpers were amazingly rational beings. Of course,
they did teach the natives all kinds of useful
sciences, including the acupuncture
70 . However, most important
for them were their own affairs. And such affairs
were dominated by the creation of complex, and alas,
incomprehensible (at least, to us) apparatuses and contrivances.
Mr. Krapiva, a
noted Ukrainian researcher of anomalous phenomena,
related in his book "UFOs: a hovering enigma of
history" (Odessa, 1991) that Huang-ti
manufactured twelve gigantic mirrors of unknown nature and used them
" following the Moon
71". Archaeologists in modern China
add another detail. They cite The Biography of Huang-ti: "When the Emperor
met the West Empress at the Mountains of Wangwu,
twelve large mirrors were wrought for use month by month."
According to Mr. Krapiva (!!!)
the
Biography of Huang-ti was based on mysterious legends. What did
the ancient scribes mean by "following the Moon?" What drove Huang-ti establish
some connection between his "mirrors" and Moon?
STOP.
Even these two sentences about "mirrors" and Moon
are based on Lissevich's text. |
There is even a
more curious detail uncovered by Krapiva.
STOP.
This very curious detail is uncovered in the
same book, p. 71. It is very curious, isn't it? |
"Account of
Wonders" (sixth century B.C.E) contained
the following story: People of the Mirror Lake tell
that where Huang-ti cast his mirrors, there
remains a stone that polished them. Creepers (creeping
grass-P.S.) does not grow on that stone
71. Lao Tzu lived in that age: did
he see the stone in question?
Miraculous
Tripods
Numerous sources relate
that Huang-ti manufactured and used some "miraculous
tripods." The "tripods" were not used for water, nor
was there any fire to heat and prepare
food in them. The purpose of such a "tripod" was
quite different: it was a "likeness of the
Great Infinite," Tao, the concealed engine of the
Universe. A "tripod" was approximately
3-4
meters in
height, but its volume relatively small: 100
liters. The legs carried most of its
weight. A curious human observer would not be able to glance inside
the "tripod," but sources did say that "hundreds
of spirits filled its insides
71. "
Krapiva, who has studied all such
sources available, is of the opinion
(opinion of Krapiva? It is the height of impudence! - BSh) what
that a functioning "tripod" emitted some noises, voices.
The legends of ancient China said that the "tripods" depicted "dragons,
flying in the clouds"; it was the same "dragon" who eventually arrived
and carried off Huang-ti and his colleagues. Most likely the "tripods"
were used for distant communications, because their location were chosen
in such a way that the star Syuan Yuan would be pointed
at. It is from that star that Huang-ti arrived on Earth
71 . We know this star as Regulus,
79
of the Leo constellation
79; more about this
curious star later.
There is a mountain, 18
kilometers northeast of Zhaoqing, first called Summit Lake Mountain
because there is a lake on its top. Legend says that the Yellow Emperor
once had a tripod cast here, hence the present name. It is one of the four
famous mountains in south China. The most interesting quality
of the "tripods" was its ability to
store knowledge and data. Such a "tripod"
knew " favorable and unfavorable signs, knew that which
exists and that which has disappeared." Moreover, a "tripod"
could remain still, and could walk about, was
able to become light and heavy
72 ( Krapiva
thinks it could somehow manipulate gravitation
72 ).The
sources listed by Ukrainian scholar are "Records
of the foremost deeds of Huang-ti the
Great" and "Glorification of the three tripods of Huang-ti" written
by Zao Ji. (Lissevich,
ref 14, p. 81)
The
Chi Yu Entity
Huang-ti and most of
his assistants operated in the Northern China.
It was there that the Chinese civilization subsequently
developed. The south of China was developed by
entities whose exact nature is not easily
determined: were they living organisms? independent
mechanisms? or mechanisms, controlled by living
creatures? Ancient sources name them "Chi Yu
and his brothers." Obviously, they were quite identical
73 . Perhaps the
discovery of the "fifth civilization" site at Chengdu, and subsequent excavations
will shed some light on those who "developed the South."
Krapiva was able to collect some information about Chi Yu.
Just like Huang-ti,
Chi Yu had four eyes (at least, considered
as such), six arms, or manipulators. The
strangest of all was Chi Yu's head: it
was made from copper and had a metallic
forehead, and some tridents in place of ears
73. According to the local
legends, the metallic head was cut off the body
(with all appropriate safeguards), and buried separately.
Years later this head continued to emit heat. On
occasions a reddish steam-like cloud would come from the burial site:
the locals worshiped it
73 ("Five books of Huang-ti"
82 ) . Chi Yu was able to
move in the rugged areas, and even fly (for short periods of time).
His (or its...) taste for food was quite impressive: all sources
suggest that the creature ate "stones and sand": this
way it obtained energy that was necessary
for the creature's movements
73 . Were Chi Yu and "his" brothers
living creatures? 74 Krapiva
thinks (impudence!-BSh)
that
were complex autonomous mechanisms, akin to robots74.
Actually
but one of the creatures would have to be controlled by an intelligent
life form 74
, but the natives considered them all as living creatures.
(Distorted, bad translation, 74
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Returning
to his Home Star
Huang-ti ruled
the land for one hundred years, but his life
span was much greater: some sources suggest
that he lived for three hundred years. Where he
spent the rest of his days, and what activities he was
engaged in is open to speculation. There
are Tao sources who state unambiguously that
after one hundred years of his "rule" Huang-ti
returned to his home star, "ascended the heavens, and
became the ruler of the Great Infinite, again turning into the star
Syuan Yuan77 ." The same star that his
"tripods" had pointed at. An ancient Chinese drawing
of the Syuan Yuan constellation has been identified by modern
astronomers as that of the Leo constellation. Its brightest
star is (Alpha Leo), Regulus. We do not know much
about this star; we do know that there are very few similarities
between our Sun and Regulus. But there is a very curious
similarity: there exists, in the Regulus
star system, a radio source that emits signals
in metric wave bands. In our Solar system there is also such
a source: Earth79-80
.What is The essence of thunder Huang-ti's image was
that of an "thunder." Aborigines of Australia
have similar myths of beings who traveled at great speeds, and emitted
"thunder." But Huang-ti was a more defined "thunder":
it (the thunder) was identified with elongated
drums. That is how the "thunder" was depicted,
as bunches of drums, each drum subdivided into four sections.
more amazing, one of Huang-ti's assistants
was known as "prince of thunder"
77 ...a navigator?
Huang-ti, "having
possessed the essence of thunder" was
able to move through space at enormous velocities. He
had a "dragon," Changhuan, used by Huang-ti
to ascend to Sun. One ancient writing mentioned that
this marvelous means of transportation "originates in the land where
suns are born," and is very old, over three thousand
years. But most significant is the notion that the enormous
speed has an effect on the movement of Time, and staves
off the ageing process of human organism. Biography
of Huang-ti states that a "changhuan" covers
myriads of miles in a day, and that human
who "rides" it can reach an age of two thousand
years 78. |
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Everything
is underlined because it is the text by Igor Lissevich.
What do you
think about all that, dear UFO UpDates?
(For me UFO
UpDates symbolizes the English speaking ufological community.)
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In our civilized world there are laws
protecting honest authors from "smart authors". What do we see usually?
"No part of
this book may be reproduced in any form or by any
means without permission in writing from the publisher",
or
"Esta publicatión
no puede ser reproducida ni en todo ni en parte... sin
permiso previo por escrito de la editorial"
, or
"Proprietà letteraria
riservata, compreso il diritto di riproduzione, anche parziale, in
qualsiasi forma" , or just three words:
"Alle Rechte vorbehalten"
or "Tous droits réservés."
Sometimes "permission is granted to quote
up to 200 words of any one article, provided the author is credited..."
Now, after this yellow story with the Yellow Emperor, we think that
there must be something very special for "experts" in the Russian
ufology like P.Stonehill, something like that:
"Permission
is granted to quote up... to end everything you
like without any reference or quotation marks. If authors are not
credited, it's nothing. Go ahead! Don't
worry! Be happy!" |
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P.Stonehill is happy.
He is proud of himself:
"My article Mysteries
of the Yellow Emperor, about China's
ancient astronauts, was
published throughout the world."
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Igor LISSEVICH (May 1932 -January
2000)
In MEMORIAM
Dear friend, many paragraphs of your
brilliant scientific articles about China's ancient astronauts (1974-75)
were translated in English and published throughout the world without any
reference to your work.
We'll never forget everything you
did for our ufology, we'll never forget your modesty.
E.Ermilov, A.Listratov,
O.Tkachenko, B.Shurinov
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EPILOGUE
SHAMEFUL ANSWER OF STONEHILL
| Gildas
Bourdais: |
Boris Shurinov has
accused you of copying another author, without
giving his name. That's where I would like to hear your answer.
True or not true? I am ready to
listen to serious arguments
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08 Jan 2001) |
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Paul Stonehill: |
...I quoted
Mr. Krapiva, whose book contains the information
about the "Yellow Emperor". I have had the book for many years. May I send
you a copy of this book? I never saw any other Russian-language book
about the Chinese Emperor (until Shurinov's
English page). ... |
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"I quoted..." Quotations
without quotation marks?
"I never saw any
other..." P.Stonehill presents himself as Director of
the RUSSIAN UFOLOGY RESEARCH CENTER "investigating Russian and Chinese
ufology since 1991" (CSU Northridge (1983), B.A. Political Science/Prelaw).
Does P.Stonehill
know the meaning of the word "research"? |
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Paul Stonehill: |
A Ukrainian researcher
wrote to me, about seven months ago, that there were other authors who
wrote about the Emperor, but never sent me anything. Until I see
the book in my hands, I will go with Mr. Krapiva as a source
. (From: Paul Stonehill
letter. UpDates 08 Jan 2001.) |
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I called
Yury N.Morozov who was one of the closest
colleagues of Igor Lissevich, and I read
these lines about "other authors".
"What's his name? Stonehill?
Never head. Swindler, put him out of your heard..."
Our friend
A.Petukhov (well-known ufologist) said with anger:
"Look, Boris,
this guy is lying without a twinge of conscience. What
do you want to prove? Nowadays there
are a lot of "specialists" like this one."
E.Ermilov
(N.Novgorod): "Researcher? Director of Russian Ufology Research Center?
Other authors? Thief, dirty scum!
Put my name
with yours, immediately! Igor Lissevich cannot answer... "
O.Tkachenko
(Moscow):
"I sign with you." |
Paul Stonehill's
aphorism:
"Until I see the book in
my hands, I will go with Mr.Krapiva as a source".
Stolen source...
SO,
Paul Stonehill
introduced in the modern ufology his very
special
"scientific
methods": no
research, quotations
without quotation marks, stolen
sources.Thanks to these methods I can
say to all of you, dear colleagues, that until I see the manuscript
signed by Edgar Allan Poe himself, in my hands, at my home, immediately
after my breakfast, posted by late E.A.Poe in person, I will
go with my grandma as a source of the story about the murders
in the Rue Morgue. I intend to write this detective
story in Georgian, for example. To translate, of course, but it's my top
secret. Why not? |
January 14, 2001
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KEVIN
RANDLE ABOUT LIARS
...we find our
ranks filled with people who have lied to us and we continue to listen
to them. ...
...When we learn
the truth, we should stop supporting those who have lied to us no matter
how appealing their story, how exciting their data, or how much we wish
it to be true. To do otherwise is to expose ourselves to the criticism
that we don't self police and we are a field that has more than our share
of frauds, charlatans, and liars and that we have no respect for the truth.
Not only will such criticism be deserved, we will never gain the respect
we desire and we will be forever doomed to failure.
From: Kevin Randle
<KRandle993@aol.com>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:23:40 ESTFwd Date: Sun,
16 Dec 2001 12:00:33 -0500
Subject: George O'Leary and
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