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Boris Shurinov - Black
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| When we learn
the truth, we should stop supporting those who have lied to us no matter
how appealing their story, how exciting their data, or how much we wish
it to be true.
Kevin
Randle to UpDates (16 Dec 2001)
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Secret KGB UFO Files - the
real story
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In our days, there are many hoaxes. But l'll focus
this page on the film
The Secret
KGB UFO Files because this footage about the alleged crash
of a UFO
near Sverdlovsk in 1968, was in the center
of a very sharp
discussion
in the ufological society, and there are some so called ufologists
defending
this film till now.
It is a chance or an occasion, I don't know, but this film is a very good
test for
the integrity of our own mind. For the honesty also. |
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| J.A.Huneeus: |
Since
the publication of my January 1999 column on "The Secret KGB UFO Files"
broadcast by TNT in September 1998, every new
item uncovered confirms that the so-called KGB crashed UFO
and alien autopsy footage is a one-hundred-percent hoax.
The
main investigator of this pseudo-TV documentary is the Moscow
researcher Boris Shurinov, one of Russia's veteran ufologists and
author of two books (one in Russian, the other in French)
about UFOs in Russia. I've met Boris twice, at the International UFO Symposium
in San Marino, and also at the 1999 UFO Congress at the University of Santiago
in Chile, where he denounced the Roger Moore KGB hoax. (J.A.Huneeus,
“UFO Chronicle”, FATE, November 2000, p. 8-9)
(Our
third and fourth meetings were in San Marino in 2000-2001. - BSh) |
| G.Bourdais: |
Boris
made a perfectly good investigation on the TNT hoax, and exposed
it publicly - twice in Italy. The first time, it was at a conference
in Cagliari, Sardinia. He was sharply denounced as a KGB man by Italian
ufologist Maurizio Baiata, who had the rights of the video for Italy.
Nevertheless, Boris did it again in San Marino in 1999. (
I repeated it in Santiago, in 1999. - BSh)
I
would like to know the opinion of Paul Stonehill on that TNT video. Does
he believe it? Has he investigated on it? (like all Russian would
be wise to do). (UpDates,
Gildas Bourdais, 6 Jan 2001.) |
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I
stand by my words. As for my TNT appearance, I will repeat what I stated
before: independent researchers need to examine this film. And I
do not consider the film a hoax - it is too early to render any final judgement.
I gave a prolonged interview to the producers; they took whatever they
deemed useful. I was not too excited about it, yet, I still think
we should examine it before rendering judgements. But you have to
have the film in your hands to examine it and we do not. Yes, other
Russian researchers have challenged the film, and Shurinov's interpretation
of it. And they are still investigating
it - Mr. Kutovoy, and others. (UpDates,
P.Stonehill, 7 Jan 2001.) |
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Paul Stonehill
is lying as usual: in Russia nobody challenged Shurinov's sentence.
Yes, sentence,
there is no place for "interpretation", as you will see it below. As far
as A.Kutovoy (from Lithuania) is concerned, I'll show to you
his personal role in the
hoax. |
United States.
On Sunday, September 13, 1998, at 8 p.m.,
Turner Network Television (TNT) presented "The Secret KGB UFO
Files", hosted and narrated by Roger Moore.
From TNT site, we learned that it was a question of "...special
featuring never- before-seen footage of what is believed to be actual crash
sites and alien autopsies, first-hand accounts with former agents
of the KGB of UFO incidents, powerful re-creations
of alien encounters and first-time interviews with the experts who
have seen the documentation and know the truth."
The Producers said they acquired 16 mm color film in Russia, allegedly
authentic KGB film footage from 1969.
Russia. I
was able to begin my research in October thanks to Gildas Bourdais
who sent me the film from Paris because he does not like hoaxes,
and the footage in question was very suspicious to him. |
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THE
ONLY ONE BIG "EXPERT"
Among
the experts we see in the film are Paul Stonehill, "author
and head of Russian Ufology Reserch Center",
Antonio Huneeus, George Filer and Stanton Friedman.
Stanton Friedman appeared on the show without loosing his head.
George Filer didn't swear on the "Filer's Files" that these crash
and autopsy were genuine.
We know that the statement of Antonio Huneeus was manipulated by the producers.
A.Huneeus' position is clear: he proved his seriousness
and integrity in his articles (Fate, January
199 and November 2000).
"When the ATI producers showed George Filer and me the
alleged UFO footage, they did not give us any details other
than that they had mysteriously acquired
it through the Russian black market, and that it was 16 mm color film,
circa 1968 or 1969. ...my conclusion is that the much-touted KGB film
is not authentic" (Fate, January 1999. V. 51, # 1, p.10).
The
only one to defend the footage without reservation was P.Stonehill :
(Sorry,
I have this film in French. I'll be grateful if I receive this passage
in English.)
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...La nature des uniformes, c'est assez compliqué quand
on veut réaliser un film qui ait l'air de sortir des années
soixante. ...J'ai vu pas mal de films tournés dans les
années soixante et celui-là en a pratiquement toutes les
caractéristiques. ...Je suis convaincu que le film n'a pas été
tourné pour tromper les gens. |
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FESTIVAL OF HOAXES IN
FOUR PARTS
The producers included in
the film four different sets of footage:
1. The MIG's footage.
2. The crashed disc.
3. The autopsy.
4. Documents and A.Petukhov.
Part One (MIG), totally independent
of the others, will be presented in 'Joint USA-CIS...", under construction
for the moment.
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PART TWO :
SOURCE, DISC AND SOLDIERS
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BOOK
The
story begins by the book "UFOs in the USSR" (in Russian).
The author is introduced as V.Vereschagin, whom no one in the
Russian UFO field had ever heard of.
According to this unknown Vereschagin-ibn-TNT's book UFOs
in the USSR , many residents of the Sverdlovsk
region had seen UFOs and an explosion on November 27, 1968. The event
was published in the Sverdlovsk newspaper. In the spring of 1969,
farmers in the area of Berezovsky found strange disc and contacted
the KGB. KGB cameramen filmed the site and
the troops' activity, and, later, im Moscow, the autopsy of an alien
occupant. |
MANY VERESCHAGIN...
Nobody
has been able to even locate a copy of Vereschagin's alleged book, UFOs
in the USSR, in which the story of the crash is supposedly
told. What we see is just a jacket. By
the way, this jacket is not typical for our publishers.
In Russia, there are many Vereschagin but nobody knows this
one in connection with the ufology. You can be sure, dear UpDates,
that we know every book published in Russia and in Russian, and every person
writing serious ufological books. This book does not exist. |
NEWSPAPER "VECHERNY SVERDLOVSK"
The
story of the crash is based on an article published in this newspaper.
The full name of the newspaper is not shown. Only a part of the name
is readable and it is "Vecherny", published by Sverdlovsky Gorkom
(town committee of the Communist Party) on Friday, November
29, 1968.
The National Library is near my home. A.Listratov who knows many
people working there could check it up immediately. In ten minutes
it was clear that the real newspaper is not the same as the newspaper shown
in the film. There is no article about UFOs or an explosion.
On the other hand, in November 1998, Notiziario UFO
published a very curious photo of the faked newspaper:
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Idea
of Igor... who doesn't want to reveal the country where he is living now.
(I am speaking about this "top hoax secret" Igor in my website in Russian.)
Reconstructed by Kutovoy... who is living in Lithuania and who is
famous for sending throughout the world Stonehill's letters about
this nasty Boris Shurinov, "Stalinist", "Anti-Semite", "a gangbanger of
ufology". (Stonehill's lie about my "anti-Semitism" is particularly disgusting.
Never in my life have I seen such meanness.)
The hoax is copyright... RUFORS...
This Kutovoy is presented by P.Stonehill as researcher.
I can assure you that the only thing signed by Kutovoy in his "ufological"
life is this hoax. As far as RUFORS is concerned, it is just the
place where Stonehill is publishing his articles. "His" Yellow
Emperor, for example. Beautiful place, jolly crowd, indeed.
What does it mean, all this story with "copyright"? |
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In principle, we could stop
here our research. The book doesn't exist, the newspaper is faked, the
statement of Antonio Huneeus was manipulated...
There
is nothing to be analysed.
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Nevertheless, I'll
continue to mash up the film in it's actual crash
on our honest ufological
road.
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CRASH
March, 1968. We see the edge of an alleged Ural forest. The "saucer" seems
to have crashed right on the edge of a forest and a clearing.
We see two cars and many soldiers with their Kalashnikov held like balalaikas
but we can't understand what they are doing.
This absurdity was noted in UpDates (15 Sep 1998): "The guards seem to
be located in a rather unorganized manner, and pointing their guns almost
in any direction..., and even pointing at the apparently higher officers
inspecting the object. The guards should preferably be located at some
distance from the object, and also pointing
their armed guns in a direction away from the inspectors and investigators..."
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(Asgeir Waehre
Skavhaug <KONAWS@statoil.com> To: updates@globalserve.net Date: Tue,
15 Sep 1998 14:21:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Soviet UFO Crash - TNT KGB
files)
This remark is to the point. My military experts appreciated the stupidity
of the hoaxers.
The
poor military "expert" commenting this part of footage "doesn't see"
the circus with soldiers and speaks about Kalashnikov. By the
way, all the "experts" (military, film, autopsy) have a very
difficult role of experts on something they don't know themselves
on what.

It is known that the winter in Ural is very cold. The cars we see are in
summer version, without hood or canvas cover. Why? Because, for the
film-hoax, it was necessary to show soldiers sitting in these cars.
In reality, and especially in the Army, it is not possible. |
MILITARY UNIFORMS
P.Stonehill
: - ...La nature des uniformes, c'est assez compliqué
quand on veut réaliser un film qui ait l'air de sortir des
années soixante. ...J'ai vu pas mal de films tournés
dans les années soixante et celui-là en a pratiquement toutes
les caractéristiques. (Sorry, I have this film in French. I'll be
grateful if I receive this passage in English.)
He knows nothing, this big expert.
Because one of the biggest inconsistencies is the question of military
uniform. In the film shot in March 1969, soldiers are in the
uniform introduced in the Soviet Army four months later,
in July (Order of the Soviet Defense Minister N 191
from 26th of July 1969 about new models of
uniform in the Soviet Army). One can
understand that this uniform was not available
immediately, in one day, for everybody. Even
in 1970 and in 1971 it was possible to see two
different greatcoats at the same time: new, with buttons,
and ancient, without buttons.
oo
1969. Without
buttons.
1971. Transitional period
The
soldiers must have the soldiers' belts with a belt-buckle like you see
above, not the officers' belts without shining bucle. In Russia,
every child knows that very well. However, in the "sensational genuine"
footage, defended by the big expert from Tarzana, all
the soldiers have the officers' belts. It's simply ridiculous
for every Russian but the so-called expert from
Tarzana doesn't know that it is a serious infringement
of the service regulations and of the drill regulation.
Two soldiers wear the greatcoats without half-belts, this is striking because
it is inadmissible in the army! It is not funny, it is stupid.
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The model of greatcoat we see
in the film was not in use in March 1969! It appeared
in the Soviet Army only with young men drafted
at the end of 1969.
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Nevertheless, I'll
continue to pulverize the film in it's disgraceful crash
on our honest ufological
road.
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DISC
There is no need to speak about the object we see in the film. If everything
is poorly staged what can we say about this disc?
From the computer simulation of the crash one would think that the impact
would have produced visible traces on the ground. But there are no traces.
By the way, what kind of traces do you want if the disc was made
from foam plastic? |
THE CRASH OF "THE CRASH". ENJOY YOURSELF
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first article about the "crash" in Moskovsky
Komsomolets-Ural, N 39 (Ekaterinburg,
formely Sverdlovsk) Olga
Dolgaleva, from Gorky Film Studio (Moscow),
visited the newspaper's editorial office and recounted her adventure
to the editorial staff.
OLGA DOLGALEVA'S STORY
In the winter 1998, in Moscow appeared two young Americans
from a TV Company (director and cameraman).
These
Americans said that the purpose of their visit to Moscow was the
shootings of several episodes for an advertising
roller. This is how Olga Dolgaleva (Gorky Film Studio)
was offered an "extra work". Olga knew her job,
it was a matter of earning a little more money, and Olga agreed.
Why not?
It may seem strange but nobody asked the Americans for what ad were they
working? It was of no concern to the others. If it was necessary,
it was necessary. Let us do not forget that the Americans were ready
to pay for the work.
A small team was organized. Olga herself was the assistant of the director.
“That winter was especially cold, says Olga,
even at the end of February. The Americans
fussed, they wanted to do the job very fast. These boys from Massachusetts
were not used to work a long time outdoors.
The Americans told Dolgaleva of an episode in a wood. It was necessary
to choose a place for shooting near Moscow and to find soldiers for one
crowd scene.
It was very easy. Moscow's filmmakers have their favorite places around
the capital. For instance, in Alabino (near
Moscow, 40 minutes by a suburban train) there are all conditions
for work: beautiful nature, wood, fields. There are many people available
for crowd scenes because of the presence of several military units
located around Alabino.
Soldiers are very good for films: silent, obedient, and robust. In Alabino
you can find tanks or even horses. If you want, of course.
Everything
was arranged, the Americans paid an officer and one company of soldiers
was ready to become deeply engaged in the search of ET. Olga says the Americans
did not pay much, but she does not want to give precise sums.
Olga says the Americans insisted very much that the soldiers should look
like soldiers of Air-Defense in 1968. They asked the wardrobe master to
choose all uniforms as it was in reality 30 years ago. However, the woman
(the wardrobe master was a woman) found herself in a very difficult
situation - there was nothing suitable within easy reach.
There
was a problem even with trousers, and consequently some soldiers remained
in camouflage under greatcoats. (As I noted above, Americans said that
these episodes were necessary for an advertising roller. An advertising
roller? If so, then everything is good. And a very serious
error was commited just with greatcoats!) Literally,
in several meters from the edge of a wood, the Americans placed
one disk made from foam plastic. It was windy, the light disk was falling
back...
Olga
Dolgaleva was really shocked when she sow in the
newspaper one photo from film with the comment about the involvement
of the KGB in the story with the disk made from foam plastic.
This story was published in the well-known newspaper Moskovsky
Komsomolets-Ural, (11.5.1998 - 11.12.1998). |
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BY THE WAY...
J.A.Huneeus:
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Needless to say, there would be no problem buying or renting authentic
Soviet era military uniforms and equipment. The whole thing
could have been put together with a very modest budget by Hollywood standards.
I
learned more damning information from Argentine UFOlogist Alex Chionetti,
who has worked in the film and TV distribution business in Los Angeles.
Chionetti knows Associated Television CEO David
McKenzie and has done business with
the company. Chionetti is convinced the footage is a hoax, made in Russia
but concocted in Hollywood. He said one of the 'former secret agents' was
an actor he knew personally and had seen around the production house."
(J.A.Huneeus.
UFO Chronicle. Fate. January 1999, V.51, # 1, p.11.)
Remember
this name - McKenzie
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A.Chionetti
B.Shurinov
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As we know, Olga Dolgaleva
mentioned only two Americans.
BUT THEY WERE SEVEN
IN THE GROUP
I have found their names:
1.
Pam
2.
Moore
3.
Tholstrab
4.
O’Leary
5.
Mc Kenzie
6.
Estrada
7.
Mercovitch
This Associated TV team arrived
in February 26th
and left Moscow in March 2nd, 1998.
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B.Shurinov
A.Huneeus
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Read, please, PART
THREE : AUTOPSY of "The AUTOPSY"
and
PART FOUR : DOCUMENTS
- A.PETUKHOV
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